This is my response to those who wander around in a religious state of confusion when it comes to the Doctrine of the Trinity and also to those who believe in the ” Jesus Only ” Doctrine.
And to extract the Father from His rightful position as being God and the Word and the Holy Spirit then that is just another foolish assumption to take away true ownership of the title of ” Father “. Just one comment to those who believe in the Jesus only doctrine answer this simple question, why did Jesus constantly pray to His Father, Who, incidently, is our Father? Enough said.
“I will declare the decree: the LORD hath said unto me, Thou art my Son; this day have I begotten thee.” And,
“And lo a voice from heaven, saying, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.”
To both of these regimens of thought, I try to explain my belief in One God as all of God’s people believe, as well as the devils and they tremble. So, if Satan and his army of angels believe in one God, [ James 2:19
“Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble.” ] why do most of today’s ” Christians believe in a ” TRINITY ” Doctrine over the One God Doctrine as taught by God in His own words in His Holy Scriptures.
Both of these doctrines are foolish in their very definitions. Even Augustine stated that the word ” persons ” was a poor choice of a word to use but used it anyway realizing that some of his colegues wanted and demanded that God be defined and also because the Roman Emporer Constantine threatened the lives of Christians. The persecution of Christians was prevalent back then and the Church was pressured to allow certain Pagan deities and the Roman trinity, Jupiter, Neptune and Pluto. It is well documented that Constantine was a devout Sun worshipper and therefore this was the open door the Pagan influence that followed because of the council of Nicea.
There is an evolution to the ” Trinity ” doctrine. It began with The Apostle’s Creed, progressed to the Nicene Creed, and finally culminated in the Athanasian Creed. The Christian Church’s roots were originally from Judaism, which was, and still is, a monotheistic (One-God) religion. There is no belief in a polytheistic (Plural) God in the Old Testament. On the contrary, OT scriptures declare the singleness of God.
Ye are my witnesses, saith the LORD, and my servant whom I have chosen: that ye may know and believe me, and understand that I am he: before me there was no God formed, neither shall there be after me.
For thus saith the LORD that created the heavens; God himself that formed the earth and made it; he hath established it, he created it not in vain, he formed it to be inhabited: I am the LORD; and there is none else.
The Nicene and Athenian creeds are in direct denial of these scriptures as well as many others. First, they had to declare that Jesus was God, and that he was eternal–which also contradicts scripture.
God is not a man that he should lie, neither the son of man, that he should repent: hath he said, and shall he not do it? Or hath he spoken, and shall he not make it good?
Jesus was a man; and he referred to himself as the Son of Man many times.
I will declare the decree: the LORD hath said unto me, Thou art my Son; this day have I begotten thee.
Jesus was begotten, (born) at a point in time, according to the Jewish prophecies. The Athanasian Creed also states that Jesus was God incarnated. This contradicts scripture also, because God does not change.
Up until the rule of Emperor Constantine, the Christians of the Roman Empire were persecuted. Constantine, however, in the early fourth century saw a chance to help restore the former glory of the Empire by bringing about religious unity. In exchange for the cooperation of the Roman Christian Bishops he made Christianity the official state religion. However, this came at great cost to the true gospel of Jesus Christ. From this time forward Christianity became a mixture of the Christian faith and Paganism.
One of the most common beliefs among Pagan cultures was in a trinity of gods. We find this among the Egyptians, Indians (of India), Japanese, Sumarians, Chaldeans, and of course, the Babylonians, to where historians trace the roots of trinitarism.
Church history shows a gradual assimilation of Pagan ideas into Christianity, brought about mostly by the Roman or Western Church, which became a political/religious extension of the Roman Empire. Foremost among the pagan ideas was the adoption of the trinity doctrine into the dogma of the church. Pagan holidays (holy days) were also incorporated into tradition by “Christianizing” them, thus we end up with Christmas being celebrated on Dec 25th; Easter, which combined the resurrection of Christ with the pagan goddess Ester, and Halloween combined with All Saint’s Day.
The New Catholic Encyclopedia 1967 –
“The formulation ‘one God in three persons’ was not solidly established, certainly not fully assimilated into Christian life and its profession of faith, prior to the end of the 4th century.”
The Encyclopedia Americana 1956 –
“Christianity derived from Judaism and Judaism was strictly Unitarian (believing in one God). The road which led from Jerusalem to Nicea was scarcely a straight one. Fourth century trinitarianism did not reflect accurately early Christian teaching regarding the nature of God; it was, on the contrary, a deviation from this teaching.”
The trinity is a deviation from believing in one God; it is a deviation from what the early church taught and it is a deviation from the scripture.
The Church of the First Three Centuries 1865 Alvan Lamson –
” . . . The modern doctrine of the Trinity is not found in any document or relic belonging to the Church of the first three centuries. . . so far as any remains or any record of them are preserved, coming down from early times, are, as regards this doctrine an absolute blank. They testify, so far as they testify at all, to the supremacy of the father, the only true God; and to the inferior and derived nature of the Son. There is nowhere among these remains a coequal trinity. . . but no un-divided three, — coequal, infinite, self-existent, and eternal. This was a conception to which the age had not arrived. It was of later origin.”
During the first three centuries, Christians did not believe that Jesus Christ was coequal, and coeternal with God, or that he was God the Son, they believed that Jesus Christ was subordinate to God, and that he had a beginning, that he was born. Those that believed otherwise were the exception.
The HarperCollins Encyclopedia of Catholicism 1995 –
“. . . scholars generally agree that there is no doctrine of the trinity as such in either the Old Testament or the New Testament.”
If the trinity is the cornerstone of Christianity then how did the church of the first three centuries get along so well without it? If the trinity is the cornerstone of Christianity then why is it not mentioned in the Bible?
Dictionary of The Bible 1995 John L. Mckenzie –
“The trinity of God is defined by the church as the belief that in God are three persons who subsist in one nature. The belief as so defined was reached only in the 4th and 5th centuries AD and hence is not explicitly and formally a biblical belief.”
The Rise of Christianity W.H.C. Frend 1985 –
“For him [Clement] the trinity consisted of a hierarchy of three graded beings, and from that concept – derived from Platonism – depended much of the remainder of his theological teaching.”
Microsoft Encarta Funk & Wagnalls 1994 –
“The theologians Clement of Alexandria, Origen, and St. Augustine were early Christian exponents of a Platonic perspective. Platonic ideas have had a crucial role in the development of Christian theology”
I Peter 1:20, 21 Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation. For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.
II Timothy 2:15 Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.
People don’t respect God’s Word, they are more interested in inventing their own theology by the will of man instead of believing the word of God, they are not interested in rightly dividing God’s word of truth. The trinity is private interpretation and wrong dividing of God’s word.
The Rise of Christianity 1985 W.H.C. Frend
“If the Father begat the son, there must be when he was not. He could not, therefore, be coeternal with the Father.”[said by Arius]
The Church in History 1964 B. K. Kuiper –
“The heathen believe in many gods. Arius thought that to believe that the Son is God as well as that the Father is God would mean that there are two Gods and that therefore the Christians would be falling back into heathenism.”
Arius believed that Jesus Christ was born, that he had a beginning, he believed that Jesus Christ was the created Son, not the Creator, and for taking the Word of God literally he was excommunicated and anathematized. Starting with Nimrod in ancient Babylon until today man has stubbornly rebelled against the doctrine of one God.
Encyclopedia Britannica 1968 –
“The Council of Nicaea met on May 20, 325. Constantine himself presiding, actively guiding the discussion, and personally proposed the crucial formula expressing the relation of Christ to God in the creed issued by the council ‘of one substance with the father.’ Over-awed by the emperor, the bishops, with two exceptions only, signed the creed, many of them against their inclination. Constantine regarded the decision of Nicaea as divinely inspired. As long as he lived no one dared openly to challenge the creed of Nicaea.”
A History of Christianity Volume 1 1997 Kenneth Scott Latourette –
“Constantine. . . although only a catechumen, [One who is being instructed in a subject at an elementary level] presided over its [the council of Nicea] opening session, and was active in its deliberations. Whether Constantine appreciated the niceties of the questions at issue is highly doubtful, for he was a layman, a warrior and administrator, not a philosopher or an expert theologian.”
The Rise of Christianity 1985 W.H.C. Frend –
“Like all great conquerors from Alexander to Napoleon or even Hitler his [Constantine’s] aim was unity and unification on a worldwide scale.”
A History of the Christian Church 2nd Ed. 1985 Williston Walker –
“He [Constantine] accepted the pagan title of Pontifex Maximus, and his coins still showed the emblems of the Sun-God.”
The Doctrine of the Trinity Christianity’s Self-Inflicted Wound 1994 Anthony F. Buzzard Charles F. Hunting –
“The God of Moses, Isaiah, Jesus, and the apostles was one person, the Father. One cannot be made equal to two or three. All that can be done with one is to fractionalize it. Divide it into smaller segments and it is no longer one. Expand it, and in spite of prodigious mental gymnastics on the part of Trinitarians, it cannot be made into two or three and still remain one.”
“. . . it is not uncommon for religious leaders to insist that you must believe in the Trinity to be a Christian, or be branded a cultist.”
“One of the great marvels of Christian history has been the ability of theologians to convince Christian people that three persons are really one God.”
I embrace the blessings bestowed upon me to be in the same company as the Apostles Peter and John, and all of the saints of God not having any formal training or degree in scholarship concerning religion but in the company of those who preach the Gospel of God Almighty; ACTS 4:13. Many are trained and taught the intricacies of religion and theaology instead of the Truth of the salvation of mankind through the death and the ressurection of the Lord Jesus, His Christ; ACTS 4:26.
As much education that I have received from that which came from those who have had formal education and learning I still went away with questions unanswered as they still are today because of the formal education and the theology that they have received in those higher institutions of education, bible schools, colleges, seminaries, etc.
I’ll never forget a well-minded pastor telling me that there is without a doubt a God the father, a God the son, and a God the Holy Ghost. That had been drilled into me throughout my childhood and my entire life, yet I rejected that theory because of the God I read about and hear is only One God, not three. Some say it’s on God but like ice having three states but one essence; water as a liquid then frozen as ice then evaporating as a vapor. NONSENSE! It’s illogical and totally unscriptural.
Has anyone ever wondered why the early church never declared the One True God as a Trinity, a Triune, or a God other than the One True God of all of His children, Israel, than Lord? In ISAIAH 43 the Lord states His name, states His position, and states His goal for mankind including His sorrow for those who remain obstinant, and states clearly, I am the LORD, your Holy One, the creator of Israel, your King.
How then can anyone try to even teach theology such as a ” TRINITY ” to those who believe in One God, or believe that in all things when you see, talk or hear them there is on one of it, not a ” Trinity ” of it? It’s more confusing to attempt to try to explain it. The God of the Holy Scriptures is NOT a God of confusion. So from where can we attribute this confusing theology originating from?
1 John 2:18
Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time.
1 John 4:3 “And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.”
Now, is this stating that there is more than One God? NO! This is stating that Jesus is the same glory of the Lord as it was before it was sent to this world as a son of man. That would make sense according to Jesus prayer; John 17:5
“And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was.” This prayer explains clearly that the Lord’s son was sent by the Father, John 3:13 – And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven.
John 8:58 – Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am.
Jesus is nothing more than a veil of flesh over the Lord, the Father, the invisible Lord of all spirits able to be seen by mankind,
Hebrews 1:3 – Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high; 4 Being made so much better than the angels, as he hath by inheritance obtained a more excellent name than they. 5 For unto which of the angels said he at any time, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee? And again, I will be to him a Father, and he shall be to me a Son? 6 And again, when he bringeth in the firstbegotten into the world, he saith, And let all the angels of God worship him.
So, why is it the early church understood the Godhead but today the church has been duped into believing a concept of God which can’t be defined nor explaind by any manner that it has been attempted. Even at it’s formal introduction at the council of Nicea Augustine stated that his view of God was – [ This meditation, he concedes, fails to yield much by way of understanding. –
Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy ]
Why is it that he thinks, and many millions of people who teach that, teach and preach from their pulpits contrary to what the Lord teaches?
And he said unto them, Unto you it is given to know the mystery of the kingdom of God: but unto them that are without, all these things are done in parables:
For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.
Having made known unto us the mystery of his will, according to his good pleasure which he hath purposed in himself:
How that by revelation he made known unto me the mystery; (as I wrote afore in few words,
Whereby, when ye read, ye may understand my knowledge in the mystery of Christ)
And to make all men see what is the fellowship of the mystery, which from the beginning of the world hath been hid in God, who created all things by Jesus Christ:
And for me, that utterance may be given unto me, that I may open my mouth boldly, to make known the mystery of the gospel,
That their hearts might be comforted, being knit together in love, and unto all riches of the full assurance of understanding, to the acknowledgment of the mystery of God, and of the Father, and of Christ;
1 Timothy 3:16
And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.
And our Father, through The flesh He had clothed Himself in said, John 14:7
“If ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also: and from henceforth ye know him, and have seen him.”
“Yet ye have not known him; but I know him: and if I should say, I know him not, I shall be a liar like unto you: but I know him, and keep his saying.”
“At that day ye shall know that I am in my Father, and ye in me, and I in you.”
“And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.”
“Then said they unto him, Where is thy Father? Jesus answered, Ye neither know me, nor my Father: if ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also.”
“But he shall say, I tell you, I know you not whence ye are; depart from me, all ye workers of iniquity.”
If ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also: and from henceforth ye know him, and have seen him.
“The eyes of your understanding being enlightened; that ye may know what is the hope of his calling, and what the riches of the glory of his inheritance in the saints,”
“Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Shew us the Father?”
Oh, I could go on and on. The truth is so plain; John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. And then we have in Genesis 1:2 And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.
1 John 5:7
“For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.”
How does someone deny this truth? Even Jesus said that His words are the Spirit of life, as the Father is the Spirit of life, and as is the Holy Spirit is the Spirit of life. John 6:63 It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life. Why then would someone try to divide God into three by thinking that the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost aren’t one, but then denying God’s definition of Himself by telling us that He is the Father, and He is the Word, and that He is the Holy Ghost?
I don’t get it? I see it and understand it, the Apostles understood it as well as all of God’s disciples. Even the Jewish listeners understood that but accused Jesus as being a liar because they believed the Father would reveal Himself as a majestic King asserting His power against wickedness in a forceful manner. Even Pilate acknowledged as much, John 18:36
“Jesus answered, My kingdom is not of this world: if my kingdom were of this world, then would my servants fight, that I should not be delivered to the Jews: but now is my kingdom not from hence.”
To understand the mystery one MUST walk in the Spirit and not in the flesh.
A Statement of Reasons for Not Believing the Doctrine of the Trinitarians Concerning the Nature of God and the Person of Christ 1833 Andrews Norton –
“When we look back through the long ages of the reign of the Trinity . . . we shall perceive that few doctrines have produced more unmixed evil.”
The Bible does not give us a doctrine of a trinity, the historical record shows that modern Christian trinitarian beliefs were not formulated until about 300 years after the death of Jesus Christ, but in pagan religions trinitarian beliefs date back to ancient Babylon, thousands of years before Jesus Christ. The coequal, coeternal, one substance, three in one trinity is not a Christian Biblical doctrine; yet there are those who insist that it is the cornerstone of Christianity.
In our day and time the doctrine of the trinity is a cornerstone of idolatry.